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50 Something Vagabond 21 Dec 2017 02:23 #80636

kmotawi wrote: Kill switch is on my plan....

Rivets vs Bolts

I've got my bench covers and supports cut and fit. I have my transom braces ready to assemble, but it crossed my mind as a I have never riveted anything whether there are some applications where stainless bolts would be ok or even preferred to rivets.

Would the areas where waterproofing is not an issue to better bolted?

Are rivets better/cheaper/faster.......?


Structurally rivets are much better, when they are in the correct size hole they stay tighter longer due to the fact the shank expands when the rivet is set so they are tight in the hole. Oversize is OK in most places usually up to 1/4" but the heads are much larger as well.

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50 Something Vagabond 21 Dec 2017 02:03 #80634

Be prepared to straighten and shrink the transom sheet if you do much welding, here is a before;

and after the welding;




it took a long day heating and shrinking to flatten this one out.

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50 Something Vagabond 21 Dec 2017 01:14 #80631

Can you weld the holes up and redrill them

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50 Something Vagabond 21 Dec 2017 00:59 #80630

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the Jb weld idea is for the hidden above water line......done some flush rivets in the same effect...if what you gotta fill is not crazy, an over size rivet should work, even if you add some extra length to it, just to help fill the void....this is just for filling, not structual........just my experience, right or wrong, cant help ya there.......thats just me skinnin a cat in my own backyard..........

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50 Something Vagabond 21 Dec 2017 00:39 #80629

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Jabe,

You mentioned using JB Weld to deal with some extra holes in the transom....

I will just fill some with rivets but....

I've got a few rivet holes I want to reuse, but they are enlarged and ovaled out. I figure I can go up a size or two and redrill, is there anything else to consider?



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50 Something Vagabond 19 Dec 2017 21:47 #80595

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"Are rivets better/cheaper/faster.......?"

i would say yes to all three.........

if it is somethin you plan or may need to reopen, redo.......s/s bolts are your next best option........just my thoughts.........and once you aquire the skill for rivets, you will ask yourself, why would i ever use bolts again....... :shades:

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Kill switch is on my plan....

Rivets vs Bolts

I've got my bench covers and supports cut and fit. I have my transom braces ready to assemble, but it crossed my mind as a I have never riveted anything whether there are some applications where stainless bolts would be ok or even preferred to rivets.

Would the areas where waterproofing is not an issue to better bolted?

Are rivets better/cheaper/faster.......?

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50 Something Vagabond 13 Dec 2017 16:19 #80408

sgower wrote: It might not be a bad idea to just install a kill switch. I know on my Vagabond it would be easy enough to do, just parallel the kill switch with the off position of my key switch.


Did it on both of mine. Cheap insurance.

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50 Something Vagabond 13 Dec 2017 14:25 #80404

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It might not be a bad idea to just install a kill switch. I know on my Vagabond it would be easy enough to do, just parallel the kill switch with the off position of my key switch.

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50 Something Vagabond 13 Dec 2017 03:20 #80397

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We had a similar accident at the last chapter AOMCI meet I attended. The nut holding the steering bracket to the motor came off and the driver got thrown right out of the boat when it came undone. The boat went into a hard turn and it flipped over. Luckily no one got hurt and the boat didn't sink. It's a good idea to check your steering cable and all attaching brackets every time you use your boat.
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